Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

04/06/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:34:45 PM Presentation: Alaska Gasline Development Corporation Liquefied Natural Gas
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 6, 2022                                                                                          
                           3:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Joshua Revak, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA GASLINE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS                                                                    
(LNG) PRESENTATION                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 177                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to microreactors."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - RESCHEDULED TO 4/8/2022                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 228                                                                                                             
"An  Act  requiring  the   designation  of  outstanding  national                                                               
resource  water  to  occur  only  by  statute;  relating  to  the                                                               
management  of   outstanding  national  resource  water   by  the                                                               
Department of  Environmental Conservation;  and providing  for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
FRANK RICHARDS, PE; President                                                                                                   
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented a PowerPoint on Alaska LNG.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
NICK SZYMONIAK, Manager                                                                                                         
Venture Development                                                                                                             
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented a PowerPoint on Alaska LNG.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  PETER MICCICHE called  the Senate  Resources Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:34  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Stevens,  Kiehl, von  Imhof, and  Vice Chair                                                               
Micciche.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Alaska  Gasline Development  Corporation Liquefied                                                               
Natural Gas                                                                                                                     
               Alaska Gas Development Corporation                                                                           
                     Liquefied Natural Gas                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
3:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR MICCICHE  announced the  consideration of  the Alaska                                                               
Gasline   Development    Corporation   Liquefied    Natural   Gas                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:35:49 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK  SZYMONIAK,  Manager,  Venture Development,  Alaska  Gasline                                                               
Development Corporation, Anchorage, Alaska, introduced himself.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
FRANK  RICHARDS,   PE;  President,  Alaska   Gasline  Development                                                               
Corporation,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated   that  when  the  AGDC                                                               
enabling legislation passed the  legislature, it directed AGDC to                                                               
provide  updates three  times per  year to  the House  and Senate                                                               
Resources Committees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed  slide 2, Alaska LNG  System, consisting of                                                               
a  map of  Alaska showing  the location  of the  North Slope  Gas                                                               
Supply &  Gas Treatment  Plant (GTP),  the Natural  Gas Pipeline,                                                               
and the Alaska LNG Facility, and bullet points.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     North Slope Gas Supply                                                                                                   
        • 40 Trillion cubic feet (tcf) of discovered,                                                                           
        conventional, and developed North Slope associated                                                                      
        gas from Prudhoe Bay and Point Thomson                                                                                  
        • This gas is stranded and can be produced at a low                                                                     
          incremental cost                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Gas Treatment Plant                                                                                                      
        • Located in Prudhoe Bay adjacent to existing gas                                                                       
          plants                                                                                                                
        • Removes and uses/sequesters carbon dioxide (CO2)                                                                      
         and hydrogen sulfide (H2S) from raw gas stream                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Natural Gas Pipeline                                                                                                     
        • 807-mile pipeline from Prudhoe Bay to Nikiski,                                                                        
          following TAPS and highway system                                                                                     
        • Provides gas to Alaskans and LNG facility                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska LNG Facility                                                                                                      
        • 20 Million tonnes per annum (Mtpa) LNG facility                                                                       
          located in Nikiski, near existing infrastructure                                                                      
          and legacy Kenai LNG plant                                                                                            
        • Converts natural gas to LNG for export to Asia                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reminded members that  the Alaska LNG Project speaks                                                               
to  an LNG  system  that  has the  ability  to commercialize  the                                                               
natural gas  resources found on  the North Slope. He  stated that                                                               
this consists  primarily of methane  that comes from  Prudhoe Bay                                                               
and  Point  Thomson units  representing  about  40 trillion  feet                                                               
(tcf) of  proven reserves, or gas  produced on a daily  basis. It                                                               
comes up with oil and  water, is captured, compressed, and pumped                                                               
into  the reservoir  for gas  cap pressurization.  He highlighted                                                               
that Point Thomson  hydrocarbons are stripped out and  the gas is                                                               
repressurized  and pumped  into the  reservoir. He  indicated the                                                               
state's  goal  was to  commercialize  its  gas to  enhance  state                                                               
revenues  but ultimately  to provide  for  lower-cost energy  for                                                               
Alaskans  for Southcentral  and  Interior  Alaska, including  the                                                               
Fairbanks  North Star  Borough. Further,  those not  able to  tap                                                               
into the pipeline  would receive benefits from  a revenue stream,                                                               
through  an In-state  Energy Fund  that could  meet the  needs of                                                               
energy projects not part of the gas pipeline route.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS stated  that the  40 tcf  represent the  20 million                                                               
tonnes per annum (Mtpa) that  could be produced at a liquefaction                                                               
facility.  However, to  do so  requires  removing carbon  dioxide                                                               
(CO2)  and  hydrogen  sulfide  (H2S)   impurities  from  the  oil                                                               
reservoirs.  He  indicated  that  would  be  captured  in  a  gas                                                               
treatment  plant  (GTP) at  the  Prudhoe  Bay operating  complex,                                                               
piped to the reservoir and  reinjected. Other jurisdictions allow                                                               
the  CO2 to  be vented,  but  in keeping  with the  environmental                                                               
"green" perspective, it was always  envisioned and designed to be                                                               
sequestered and reinjected.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  explained  that the  Natural  Gas  Pipeline  would                                                               
parallel the  Trans-Alaska Pipeline  System (TAPS) for  the first                                                               
407 miles, turn south and  parallel the Alaska Railroad and Parks                                                               
Highway before crossing Cook Inlet  and terminating in Nikiski at                                                               
the site of a new LNG  facility. The facility would produce up to                                                               
20  Mtpa destined  for Asian  markets. He  highlighted that  they                                                               
would  have a  seven to  nine day  shipping window  so it  is not                                                               
effective  to ship  elsewhere. The  legislature directed  AGDC to                                                               
make gas  available to Alaskans  so 500 million cubic  feet (MCF)                                                               
would be reserved to meet Alaska's energy needs at lower costs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  reviewed the bullet  points on slide 3,  Alaska LNG                                                               
Status. The slide depicted a  globe showing the proposed shipping                                                               
route from Alaska to the Asia Pacific.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Strong Economics                                                                                                         
        • Alaska LNG has lower costs than its key                                                                               
          competitors                                                                                                           
        • Cost of supply independently verified                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fully Permitted                                                                                                          
        • Federal government has approved construction of                                                                       
          Alaska LNG                                                                                                            
        • Acquiring permits took significant effort and                                                                         
          they are valuable                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental Benefits                                                                                                   
        • Alaska LNG will reduce global greenhouse gas                                                                          
          emissions                                                                                                             
        • LNG will continue to be an important energy                                                                           
          source                                                                                                                
3:40:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS stated  that the Alaska LNG project  has been deemed                                                               
an  economic and  competitive project.  Wood Mackenzie,  a global                                                               
research  and   consultancy  firm,  provided   their  independent                                                               
economic analysis  to the legislature  yesterday, and  deemed the                                                               
Alaska LNG  project as an  economic, competitive project  for the                                                               
Asian market.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS reviewed  the permitting  status and  environmental                                                               
benefits as  shown on  the bullet  points. AGDC  received federal                                                               
permitting  authorizations  from  the Federal  Energy  Regulatory                                                               
Commission  authorization  to  construct  the  project,  and  the                                                               
Department of  Energy's approval  to sell  Alaska's LNG  to free-                                                               
trade and non-free-trade countries. AGDC was granted the rights-                                                                
of-way from the Bureau of  Land Management, National Park Service                                                               
and the  Alaska Department of  Natural Resources. The  project is                                                               
one of  the lowest  carbon-intensive projects  in the  world. LNG                                                               
will  replace  coal  in  Asia  as a  power  source,  which  could                                                               
substantially reduce CO2 emissions from their power plants.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON  IMHOF inquired about the  map on slide 3  showing an                                                               
ice-free arctic.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS answered  that it  shows the  Arctic Ocean  and the                                                               
Beaufort Sea but it was not ice free yet.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF  suggested that drawing a  line between Prudhoe                                                               
Bay and Scandinavia, the distance would  be about the same as the                                                               
Asia  Pacific  route. She  wondered  if  using icebreakers  would                                                               
result in a much faster trip.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  replied that it would  take substantial icebreakers                                                               
to use that route.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:43:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed  slide 4, Strong LNG  Market, including the                                                               
line graph  and bullet  points. He noted  that Gas  Strategies, a                                                               
natural  resource  consulting  firm based  in  London,  forecasts                                                               
mirrored work done by BP,  TotalEnergies, and other international                                                               
oil companies. He  directed attention to the  gray area depicting                                                               
the  supply and  the line  graph  projections of  the future  LNG                                                               
demand. The  two scenarios incorporate the  net-zero targets that                                                               
Asian countries  need to  reduce their  CO2 emissions.  The green                                                               
line shows  the decarbonization  demand scenario  Asian countries                                                               
would meet  by their 2050  target dates.  The black line  shows a                                                               
partial  transition to  the decarbonization,  and the  horizontal                                                               
bar shows  how the Alaska LNG  project fits in the  demand curve.                                                               
He highlighted that it represents a small amount of the demand.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     LNG Market is Still Growing                                                                                              
        • Demand growth will outpace current and planned                                                                        
          LNG capacity                                                                                                          
        • LNG growth expected as part of energy transition                                                                      
          as natural gas emits half the greenhouse gasses                                                                       
          as coal                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Investors and Buyers want LNG                                                                                            
        • New LNG projects expected to be sanctioned in                                                                         
          2022                                                                                                                  
        • Most new projects have some degree of energy                                                                          
          transition planning                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "?raising  capital  for  these  very  capital-intensive                                                                    
     [LNG]  projects has  not  really been  that  much of  a                                                                    
     challenge to the industry. I  think that sends a strong                                                                    
     signal of  confidence that  this [LNG]  is going  to be                                                                    
     around  for a  while." -Dan  Brouillette, President  of                                                                    
     Sempra  Infrastructure  on  NPR's Marketplace  (Jan  3,                                                                    
     2022)                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS directed attention to a  quote on the slide from Dan                                                               
Brouillette, President,  Sempra Infrastructure that  signaled the                                                               
company's confidence that LNG has growth opportunity.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF commented  that  some  projects yield  higher                                                               
returns because they  are less complicated. Having  served on the                                                               
committee for  six years, she  had seen AGDC's  LNG presentation.                                                               
She said  global supply  and demand  appears more  promising than                                                               
ever, although  it is  still costly in  Alaska. She  indicated it                                                               
was  significant  that  rather  than solely  relying  on  China's                                                               
funding,  the  Alaska LNG  project  would  provide a  mixture  of                                                               
public  and  private  and   domestic  and  international  funding                                                               
sources from federal government loans.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS suggested  that she  was referring  to the  federal                                                               
loan guarantee program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  VON IMHOF  said borrowing  is  expensive. She  indicated                                                               
that  she  did   not  like  AGDC's  prior   reliance  on  China's                                                               
financing, so she found the financing changes significant.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS responded  that a later slide  would demonstrate the                                                               
non-recourse  toll model.  Mr. Szymoniak  would explain  how this                                                               
has reduced costs making the project competitive.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:48:35 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE  CHAIR MICCICHE  commented  that he  recently attended  some                                                               
meetings  in New  York City  and learned  that while  the largest                                                               
banks are no longer lending on  heavy oil, Arctic natural gas was                                                               
not included in their policy statements.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:49:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked  whether the  concern  was  about  the                                                               
commodity  being  extracted  but  not  about  the  infrastructure                                                               
required to extract either commodity.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR MICCICHE  characterized the  lending issues  as anti-                                                               
Arctic National  Wildlife Refuge  related to a  single commodity:                                                               
oil.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:51:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  stated that  natural gas is  an effective  fuel to                                                               
replace  coal-fired power,  the  highest carbon-intensity  power.                                                               
Thus, bringing  gas on  to replace  coal in the  US or  China can                                                               
obtain a  significant benefit.  He surmised  that was  the reason                                                               
banks were willing to consider  participating in gas projects but                                                               
not oil projects.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  MICCICHE responded  that  when  he tried  to  permit                                                               
projects  in the  Lower 48  in his  previous career,  intervenors                                                               
such  as  the  Sierra  Club  were  equally  against  natural  gas                                                               
projects and  oil projects.  He offered his  view that  there are                                                               
levels of  oil and gas  production opposition, with  some against                                                               
everything,   and  others   only  opposed   to  heavy   oils.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that   not  all  projects  have   the  same  carbon                                                               
footprint.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed the future of Asia Energy Security.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       • As a result of the war in Ukraine, the US LNG                                                                          
        destined for Asia has been diverted to Europe.                                                                          
     • Europe is rapidly building new LNG import capacity                                                                       
        to reduce its dependence on Russian gas, new LNG                                                                        
        from the Gulf Coast will meet this future demand                                                                        
     • This dynamic increases the need for US supply from                                                                       
        Alaska to meet the long-term energy security needs                                                                      
        of Asia                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS highlighted that the  market would rebalance and may                                                               
provide an opportunity for Alaska to  meet the needs of US allies                                                               
going into the future.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  reviewed the  graph and bullet  points on  slide 6,                                                               
LNG Prices  in Uncharted Territory.  This slide depicted  a graph                                                               
showing the Japanese  Korea Marker (JKM), showing  the spot price                                                               
in  Asia, and  Title Transfer  Facility (TTF),  which provides  a                                                               
Netherlands-based spot  price. He pointed out  that these markers                                                               
were parallel until December, then  diverged. The LNG spot prices                                                               
were $8  in January  2021 but rose  to $36 in  Europe and  $34 in                                                               
Asia and continue to rise,  which creates an opportunity for gain                                                               
for those producers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Fear of Cuts to Russian Gas Supply                                                                                       
       • The push to shift LNG to Europe drove LNG spot                                                                         
        prices higher                                                                                                           
      • On March 7, LNG into Europe was trading at over                                                                         
        $70/MMBtu (over $400/bbl oil equivalent)                                                                                
        • Prices remain above $30/MMBtu ($170/bbl oil                                                                           
        equivalent)                                                                                                             
        • This is driving buyers back to the long-term                                                                          
        contracts needed to underpin Alaska LNG                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:57:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS  reviewed slide  7,  Focus  on  US LNG  for  Energy                                                               
Security,  consisting of  a US  map.  He reviewed  the status  of                                                               
North American  LNG Export Terminals  that were approved  but not                                                               
yet built.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     US LNG Can Replace All Russia Gas to Europe                                                                              
     • 15 Billion cubic feet/day (Bcfd) of gas delivered                                                                        
        from Russia to Europe                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     But It Will Take Time                                                                                                    
     • 3.7 Bcfd of LNG is under construction in the Gulf                                                                        
        Coast                                                                                                                   
     • Another 24.9 Bcfd is permitted for construction in                                                                       
        the Gulf Coast                                                                                                          
      • Alaska, at 2.63 Bcfd, is the only Pacific Basin                                                                         
        project permitted for construction that stands                                                                          
        ready to meet the needs of Asian buyers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  pointed out that  Alaska was not the  only country                                                               
developing LNG. He  wondered about the global  supply outlook and                                                               
the growing need in Europe or other markets.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  answered that  a  later  slide would  compare  the                                                               
competitiveness  of  the  Alaska   LNG  project  with  greenfield                                                               
projects coming online.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL asked whether he could also discuss the quantity.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered that he could do so in general terms.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed the Market  Impact on Alaska LNG, including                                                               
the  record  high  LNG  prices,  the  role  of  LNG  in  national                                                               
security, and  how using natural  gas as bridge fuel  has created                                                               
an impact on Alaska LNG                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  stated  that  AGDC  attended  CERAWeek  hosted  by                                                               
Cambridge Energy  Research Associates  (CERA) in  Houston, Texas,                                                               
where he  discussed the Gulf  Coast Projects. He stated  that the                                                               
LNG  investors  and developers  have  had  increased interest  in                                                               
Alaska LNG's fully-permitted project on  the West Coast. He noted                                                               
that  the recent  interest indicates  that  these investors  have                                                               
been conducting due diligence on the Alaska LNG project.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF  related her understanding that  natural gas is                                                               
considered  a  bridge fuel  to  hydrogen.  She noted  that  blue,                                                               
green, and  gray hydrogen all  require separating  and liquefying                                                               
at  extremely low  temperatures, which  are subsequently  shipped                                                               
via a pipeline.  She related a scenario in which  the state built                                                               
a natural  gas pipeline, but 10  years from now, the  state wants                                                               
to  switch it  to green  hydrogen.  She asked  if technology  was                                                               
being  considered regarding  natural gas  as a  bridge fuel.  She                                                               
wondered  if  it  made  sense   to  build  a  pipeline  that  can                                                               
accommodate multiple fuels.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  answered that AGDC  has been  considering hydrogen.                                                               
He explained that it was it  easier to move the methane molecules                                                               
to Cook Inlet tidewater since  it is ice-free water for shipping,                                                               
and adjacent to  the Cook Inlet Basin. He  explained the process,                                                               
using the methane  molecule to create blue  hydrogen by stripping                                                               
off one  of four  carbon atoms, which  could be  sequestered into                                                               
the  Cook Inlet  Basin. He  said a  readily available  carrier of                                                               
hydrogen is  ammonia, so an  existing urea ammonia  plant, Agrium                                                               
Ammonia  Urea Plant  in  Kenai  could be  restarted  to create  a                                                               
supply of  methane. It  could be expanded  to produce  ammonia or                                                               
methanol to  meet the customer's  needs. Ultimately,  shifting to                                                               
green hydrogen,  which is essentially the  electrolysis of water,                                                               
would mean  using a  renewable energy source  to break  the water                                                               
into its molecules. The infrastructure  would be in place to pipe                                                               
it  to a  ship  to move  to  market or  for  producing energy  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:03:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  noted  the hydrogen  blue  energy  would  be                                                               
located at Cook  Inlet tidewater rather than at  Prudhoe Bay. She                                                               
surmised there  was substantial  natural gas  in Cook  Inlet, but                                                               
Prudhoe  Bay also  has natural  gas.  She wondered  if the  state                                                               
wanted to  extend the life of  the investment beyond 30  years if                                                               
the  technology exists  to move  ammonia  or methanol  in an  LNG                                                               
pipeline.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR  MICCICHE  answered   that  cryogenic  pipelines  are                                                               
immensely expensive  to construct.  He related  his understanding                                                               
that Mr. Richards had indicated that  the gas would move from the                                                               
North  Slope  to  Cook  Inlet  to  process  it  into  ammonia  or                                                               
hydrogen. He  noted that tankers  could move the cryogenics  at a                                                               
reasonable cost but pipelines cannot.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:05:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK  reviewed slide 9,  Wood Mackenzie Cost  of Supply.                                                               
He provided background information, such  that in 2016, the state                                                               
partnered with Conoco  Phillips, Exxon, and BP  to advance Alaska                                                               
LNG. The group  jointly hired Wood Mackenzie to  do a third-party                                                               
independent  analysis of  the project  economics. In  2016, those                                                               
economics  for  a  producer-led  project,  producer  capital  and                                                               
equity,  using a  traditional LNG  business model  indicated that                                                               
Alaska LNG was uneconomical with  the cost of supply ranging from                                                               
$11 to  $12. The producers turned  over the project to  the state                                                               
and  the state  has continued  to advance  the project.  The main                                                               
achievement was securing major permits  to construct the project,                                                               
refine  the capital  cost and  modernize the  business structure.                                                               
AGDC  adopted  a Non-Recourse  Finance,  which  is a  well-proven                                                               
financing  model.  It  has  been  used  to  finance  every  major                                                               
pipeline other  than TAPS  in many  generations. However,  it was                                                               
relatively unusual for  LNG plants at that time.  Since 2016, the                                                               
Tolling Model  has been used  to finance  every new LNG  plant in                                                               
the US.  The US  became the  world's largest  exporter of  LNG in                                                               
December. AGDC has  spent the last year bringing  this project to                                                               
the  point  of  seeking  private  investors.  Further,  AGDC  has                                                               
brought in a  pipeline party to lead the pipeline  portion of the                                                               
project.  AGDC decided  to hire  Wood Mackenzie  to update  their                                                               
independent  economic  analysis of  the  Alaska  LNG project.  He                                                               
reported that the  Alaska LNG project is  economically viable due                                                               
to changes in the cost refinement and the business structure.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK  directed attention to  the green bar on  slide 10,                                                               
Wood Mackenzie Cost of Supply  (CoS) representing the 2016 Alaska                                                               
LNG cost.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK said  CoS is now 43 percent lower  than in 2016 due                                                               
to lower capex  and feedgas price, and the use  of a non-recourse                                                               
debt funded third-party tolling structure.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK stated  that the big difference is the  oil and gas                                                               
companies like to  earn a high return and are  willing to take on                                                               
risk.  The investors  understand that  in years  of high  prices,                                                               
they will make more money, but  it's possible that prices will be                                                               
low.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:08:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK reviewed  slide 10, Wood Mackenzie  Cost of Supply.                                                               
Slide  from  2022  Wood   Mackenzie  Alaska  LNG  Competitiveness                                                               
Analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK noted that pipeline  companies have much lower risk                                                               
and are  paid for pipeline  capacity, whether the  product prices                                                               
are  high  or low,  or  if  the product  is  moved.  Oil and  gas                                                               
companies  built  every  LNG  plant until  2016.  In  2016,  Wood                                                               
Mackenzie decided  to apply  the pipeline  business model  to LNG                                                               
plants, which dramatically  brought down the cost  of LNG plants.                                                               
The buyers paid  the same amount to the  LNG companies regardless                                                               
of the  product price or if  the LNG was used.  This dramatically                                                               
reduced the  cost of liquefying  the natural gas, which  is shown                                                               
in the  first red bar.  The second  red bar represents  the capex                                                               
cost reduction to  $38 billion, and the third  red bar represents                                                               
the reduction  of feed  gas costs. He  noted that  Wood Mackenzie                                                               
had estimated  the cost of gas  on the North Slope  would be over                                                               
$2.  Since then,  AGDC  has worked  closely  with the  producers,                                                               
including  signing  binding  agreements  with BP  and  Exxon  and                                                               
advancing discussions  with Conoco Phillips. The  assumption that                                                               
the  price of  purchasing  raw  gas from  Prudhoe  Bay and  Point                                                               
Thomson  would be  $1  per metric  million  British thermal  unit                                                               
(MMBtu) is being  negotiated and is not firm, and  the $1 - $1.50                                                               
sensitivity  analysis Wood  Mackenzie used  is indicative  of the                                                               
prices that the producers committed to in the past.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK highlighted  that  shipping  costs of  $.066/MMbtu                                                               
were largely  unchanged, resulting  in LNG  delivered to  Asia at                                                               
$6.70.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL stated  that there  is  one other  owner of  North                                                               
Slope gas, the royalty owner,  who is accustomed to reviewing the                                                               
market  value of  hydrocarbons.  He asked  whether this  proposal                                                               
would  require the  state to  agree to  roughly $1.15  per MMBtu,                                                               
regardless of the market price.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK  indicated that  question has  to be  resolved with                                                               
the state  and the producers.  He noted  that in terms  of market                                                               
value, it was possible to calculate  the well head price based on                                                               
the  LNG price.  However, with  independent third  parties owning                                                               
the  entire system,  they will  buy  natural gas  from the  three                                                               
producers on the  North Slope but not market their  own LNG. That                                                               
creates  an  arms-length  transaction  on the  North  Slope  that                                                               
results in a fair market price.  If the three producers feel like                                                               
the  market price  of their  raw natural  gas is  $1 -  $1.50, it                                                               
establishes  the market  price of  the value  of the  North Slope                                                               
gas. It  could potentially help streamline  the valuation process                                                               
for DOR.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:11:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS commented  that the  state would  ultimately decide                                                               
whether it wants to receive its royalty in-kind or in-value.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL suggested  that the producers may  have an interest                                                               
in  the  state  using  the  same rules  they  use.  It  would  be                                                               
interesting  to evaluate  the finances  of the  new proposal  and                                                               
determine how it impacts the treasury.  On the one hand, if it is                                                               
on the  North Slope, there is  no royalty value to  the treasury,                                                               
but if is sold at less than market value, Alaskans may object.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS commented  that Alaskans also like  to receive their                                                               
natural gas at the lowest cost possible.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  expressed  his  interest  in  ensuring  that  the                                                               
natural gas  would be available  to rural Alaskans  and residents                                                               
in Kotzebue, Kodiak, and Ketchikan.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE commented  that a reduced  value of  zero is                                                               
pretty  low.  He said  it  is  something  that  will need  to  be                                                               
discussed as any projects move forward.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:13:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF  commented that it would be good  if it came to                                                               
fruition  because LNG  could provide  an excellent  asset and  an                                                               
economic boom  for this state. She  pointed out that in  the past                                                               
24 months  the cost of labor  and materials, such as  steel, have                                                               
gone  down, but  prices  are  going up  because  of supply  chain                                                               
issues. She  expressed concern  that the  costs are  volatile and                                                               
could easily change. She wondered  if AGDC could develop best and                                                               
worst  case cost  scenarios  and who  is  responsible for  rising                                                               
costs. She asked  whether AGDC negotiated the  property taxes for                                                               
the pipeline and if they could be set aside or suspended.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS answered  that Wood  Mackenzie's report  included a                                                               
tornado chart  that addressed cost  overruns. He recalled  that a                                                               
15 percent  cost overrun would  add $.70  to the cost  of supply,                                                               
going from  $6.70 to $7.40.  The outlook going forward  still was                                                               
$1 - $2 below the market,  so there would still be an opportunity                                                               
for the state. All other  greenfield projects would be facing the                                                               
same types of inflationary impacts.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:15:57 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE asked whether  the state would have  to beat                                                               
the price of  every producer of LNG  in the world in  order to be                                                               
competitive.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  answered that  AGDC wanted  to develop  an economic                                                               
project as  least risky  as possible.  The project  capital costs                                                               
projections  include contingencies  for cost  overruns. It  would                                                               
also depend  how risk would  be allocated for the  cost overruns.                                                               
If the  state wants to  retain ownership  it would be  subject to                                                               
some risk. However, Alaska does not  have to beat the best price.                                                               
As the Asian buyers of LNG  looked for diversity and supply, they                                                               
would be  able to determine AGDC  has a project that  fits within                                                               
their supply and cost goals.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE stated  that there is   X  amount  of demand                                                               
and  the lowest  cost  LNG  can only  supply  a  portion of  that                                                               
demand.  He asked  if it  was correct  that as  long as  AGDC was                                                               
within a profit of margin, it would have a marketable project.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered that was correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK  added that it  was the cost  of supply but  it was                                                               
not necessarily AGDC's  selling price for its  LNG. For instance,                                                               
if the  eventual investors  taking over the  project are  able to                                                               
sell at a  higher price; that is to their  advantage, the state's                                                               
advantage, and  potentially increasing  the well head  price. For                                                               
instance, if  the state could  sell Alaska's LNG above  $6.70 per                                                               
MMBtu it should do so.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK reviewed the breakdown  of the new optimized CoS of                                                               
$6.70 bard chart  cost shown on slide 11, Wood  Mackenzie Cost of                                                               
Supply. He  said shipping  costs of  $.76 is  one of  the state's                                                               
best  advantage since  shipping costs  for US  Gulf Coast  LNG to                                                               
Asia  can  reach  $2.00.  The $2.24  in  liquefaction  costs  was                                                               
comparable to  liquefaction costs of  other LNG plants in  the US                                                               
Gulf Coast using the same  business model. Since Alyeska Pipeline                                                               
Service  Company  verified and  valuated  the  pipeline costs  of                                                               
$1.50, AGDC feels comfortable using  them. The GTP costs of $1.16                                                               
were based on the LNG  Plant and Alyeska Pipeline's business plan                                                               
model. He pointed out the $1.15  cost of feed gas includes the $1                                                               
purchase  price and  $.15 for  fuel.  The new  optimized cost  is                                                               
estimated to be US $6.7/MMBtu.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS directed  attention to the three  key elements shown                                                               
on the  lower portion  of the  bar graphs, the  raw gas  and fuel                                                               
price, the GTP, and the pipeline  costs of $4 represents the cost                                                               
of gas to  Alaskans. He emphasized that the lower  cost of gas to                                                               
Alaskans was beneficial.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:19:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK reviewed  slide 12, Wood Mackenzie  Cost of Supply,                                                               
which consisted of three bar  chars comparing Alaska LNG, US Gulf                                                               
of Mexico Low End, and US Gulf  of Mexico High End. With the cost                                                               
optimization and  new debt structure,  Alaska LNG  is competitive                                                               
against  US  Gulf  Coast  LNG   Projects.  He  stated  that  Wood                                                               
Mackenzie  used  US  Gulf  Coast for  comparison  because  it  is                                                               
largely  recognized  that  the  US Gulf  Coast  is  the  marginal                                                               
supplier of LNG in the world.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK  highlighted that  because  the  Alaska LNG  MMBtu                                                               
capacity  charge or  liquefaction charge  of $2.25  falls between                                                               
the $2  - $2.5 MMBtu  charges for the US  Gulf Coast low  end and                                                               
high  end,   it  means   AGDC  can  deliver   LNG  to   Asia  for                                                               
significantly less.  He offered  his view that  this margin  is a                                                               
bit wider  since the price of  Henry Hub has increased  from $3 -                                                               
$4 to over $5 - $6 today.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:20:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SZYMONIAK  reviewed  slide   13,  Gas  for  Alaskans,  which                                                               
included  a line  graph showing  the Alaska  LNG versus  historic                                                               
Cook Inlet Natural  Gas prices. He said that AGDC  was created to                                                               
supply natural gas to Alaskans. He reviewed the bullet points.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Low-Cost Gas for Alaskans                                                                                                
      • The Alaska LNG in-state price is estimated to be                                                                        
        between $4 - $5 per MMBtu                                                                                               
     • Significant reduction from current prices, saving                                                                        
        Alaskans hundreds of dollars per year                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Enough Gas for Alaskans                                                                                                  
    • The pipeline is designed to supply more natural gas                                                                       
        than the LNG plant needs                                                                                                
      • Enough capacity for in-state demand to more than                                                                        
        double                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SZYMONIAK  stated  that the  heating  bills  for  Anchorage,                                                               
Matanuska-Susitna Valley (Mat-Su),  and Kenai Peninsula residents                                                               
would be  reduced by half  and their electrical bills  would also                                                               
be significantly  reduced. Savings for Fairbanks  residents would                                                               
be even higher for those  residents who could access natural gas.                                                               
Currently,  fuel  oil is  higher  than  $30 per  MMBtu.  Low-cost                                                               
energy  is essential  but equally  important is  long-term energy                                                               
security. New businesses and industries  moving to Alaska need to                                                               
know that energy costs would be  consistently low for the next 50                                                               
years and  any risks of Cook  Inlet natural gas decline  would be                                                               
mitigated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK reviewed slide 14,  Alaska LNG vs Competitors. Some                                                               
of the  LNG projects  on the  right side of  the slide  show that                                                               
some competing  LNG projects  have a much  lower cost  of supply,                                                               
but typically sell an oil-indexed link  and Alaska can come in at                                                               
a lower price.  He offered his view that AGDC  is competitive and                                                               
has a  lower cost  than the  margin supplier  for most  other LNG                                                               
projects in the world.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK stated that most LNG  is based on the cost of crude                                                               
oil.  A  typical  percentage  would be  12  percent  times  Brent                                                               
resulting in $12 gas. Sometimes  it fluctuates above or below the                                                               
$6.70  price. The  US Gulf  Coast is  based on  Henry Hub  plus a                                                               
differential for the liquefaction plus shipping.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK  directed attention to  the chart on slide  14 that                                                               
was received  positively by potential  LNG buyers who  would like                                                               
to have a portion of their  LNG purchase portfolio not be exposed                                                               
to oil and gas pricing.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS   responded  to  Senator  Kiehl's   question  about                                                               
competitors. He stated that Qatar's  LNG expansion would increase                                                               
its  liquefaction capacity  to about  100 million  tons per  year                                                               
(MTPA) of new production, which is why  it has a low cost. The US                                                               
Gulf Coast production has about  220 MTPA that has been permitted                                                               
but is not under construction.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF  asked why most of the bar  graphs on the right                                                               
side of  slide were higher than  Alaska LNG and if  it meant PNG,                                                               
Western  Canada,  and  US  Gulf   Coast  competitors  had  higher                                                               
construction or shipping costs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS answered  that this  chart  shows the  LNG Cost  of                                                               
Supply (CoS)  to Asia, which  is the  landed cost. He  noted that                                                               
some competitors have higher  shipping costs, construction costs,                                                               
or gas costs in the ground.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:24:11 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE commented that  if geopolitical stability was                                                               
also considered, it would affect  two or three of these projects.                                                               
Other  than diversification  of supply,  is there  a quantifiable                                                               
value to  LNG buyers to  have the  political stability of  US LNG                                                               
suppliers   compared  to   the  political   stability  of   other                                                               
countries, such as Mozambique.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  pointed out that Arctic  LNG 2 in Russia  might not                                                               
move forward. He  offered his belief that  Asian buyers recognize                                                               
the  US  political  stability  as   a  positive  because  of  its                                                               
reliability. He stated  that the Conoco Phillips  Kenai LNG plant                                                               
operated for 50 years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS recalled  Senator von  Imhof's earlier  comments on                                                               
loan  guarantees. He  credited then-Senator  Ted Stevens  for his                                                               
support that  led to passage  of the Alaska Natural  Gas Pipeline                                                               
Act. The  project was to take  North Slope gas and  deliver it by                                                               
pipeline to the US Midwest.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  stated  that  the  bill  created  a  federal  loan                                                               
guarantee  for  the  developers of  that  specific  project.  The                                                               
recent  passage of  the Infrastructure  Investment  and Jobs  Act                                                               
(IIJA), signed  by President Biden,  amended the language  in the                                                               
bill so  the Alaska  LNG project would  become eligible  for loan                                                               
guarantees.  This  means  the  Biden  administration  pledges  to                                                               
guarantee loans with  the full faith and credit of  the US to pay                                                               
the principal  and interest on  $26.3 billion of Alaska  LNG debt                                                               
in the  event of a default.  The benefits of the  loan guarantees                                                               
from this backstop  will be a lower rate of  return for financing                                                               
costs ranging  from 1    2.5 percent.  Thus, the  loan guarantees                                                               
could  reduce the  cost  from  potential 5  percent  to either  4                                                               
percent or 2.5 percent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS reviewed slide 15, Federal Loan Guarantee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The full faith and credit of the United States will be                                                                     
       pledged to pay the principal and interest on $26.3                                                                       
     billion of Alaska LNG debt in the event of a default.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The Infrastructure Bill includes a loan guarantee for                                                                    
     Alaska LNG                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      • Principal amount of debt guaranteed up to $26.3                                                                         
        billion (adjusted for inflation)                                                                                        
     • Up to 80% of the capital cost                                                                                            
     • Term of up to 30 years                                                                                                   
     • Loan guarantee will be subject to credit terms and                                                                       
        requirements of the loan program                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits of the loan guarantee                                                                                           
     • Reduced cost of supply                                                                                                   
     • Completion risk mitigation                                                                                               
     • Federal government support and "skin in the game"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  directed attention  to the  waterfall chart  on the                                                               
right hand  side of the slide  that shows the impacts  on the CoS                                                               
from  the rate  reductions.  He stated  that  initially AGDC  had                                                               
identified a  20 year period  for debt financing, which  could be                                                               
expanded  to 30  years resulting  in even  lower costs.  It could                                                               
cover up to 80 percent of  the capital costs. The waterfall chart                                                               
shows  that  the  project's  current $6.70  base  case  could  be                                                               
lowered to a maximum of  $5.59, allowing more significant margins                                                               
for the developers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:27:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked  if   the  principal  amount  of  debt                                                               
guaranteed up  to $26.3 billion was  solely for Alaska LNG  or if                                                               
the funds would need to be shared with other US LNG projects.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  answered that  this is for  the Alaska  LNG project                                                               
and for  the pipeline project from  the North Slope of  Alaska to                                                               
the US Midwest.  He noted that two projects are  eligible for the                                                               
funding, but  the US Gulf  Coast projects or West  Coast projects                                                               
were not eligible.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked why  the  Biden  Administration  would                                                               
support this project but not Keystone.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  answered that Alaska  LNG is a natural  gas project                                                               
and not a  crude oil project. It relates to  a US-producing state                                                               
where the  supply had been  produced for  40 years. It  would not                                                               
necessarily  require an  expansion  of drilling.  It would  allow                                                               
natural  gas to  replace coal,  so it  has a  green environmental                                                               
benefit. It would  also meet the needs of  producing lower energy                                                               
costs to Alaskans.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed Property Tax Benchmarking on slide 16.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       The property taxes that Alaska LNG would pay under                                                                       
     current statute are 10 times higher than Alaska LNG's                                                                      
     competitors.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Most of Alaska LNG is subject to 20 mill property tax                                                                    
     • Equates to almost $800 million per year  over 10s                                                                        
        higher than other projects                                                                                              
     • Equates to 10% of cost of supply                                                                                         
     • The LNG plant may be subject to lower property tax                                                                       
        rate but higher municipal taxes                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  referred to  the chart  on the  right of  slide 15,                                                               
which shows  some of the tax  regimes and tax holidays  that have                                                               
been provided to  other projects by other states,  such as Texas,                                                               
Louisiana or Virginia, including Payment  in Lieu of Taxes (PILT)                                                               
of $1 million per year,  factoring in property tax abatements, or                                                               
a  10-year tax  holiday  with  depreciation. These  jurisdictions                                                               
recognized  the economic  activity associated  with the  projects                                                               
that  resulted  in   more  jobs  and  other   benefits  to  their                                                               
communities  so  they had  a  willingness  to provide  lower  tax                                                               
regimes. He  highlighted that  the state  could consider  ways to                                                               
make the  project more economically  viable such as  property tax                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Property Tax Changes                                                                                                     
    • As contemplated in SB138 (2013), changes to property                                                                      
        taxes are expected prior to project sanction                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS noted that the  bill charged the state, communities,                                                               
and  boroughs to  consider PILT  to reduce  property taxes.  That                                                               
effort  ended  in  2016  with  the producers,  so  it  was  never                                                               
concluded,  but that  law provision  still stands  and will  need                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:31:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON  IMHOF  asked  if   the  previous  numbers  [on  the                                                               
waterfall chart on slide 15] contemplated and incorporated PILT.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS answered  that  it included  property  taxes at  20                                                               
mills, representing  approximately $800 million per  year, so the                                                               
$6.70 CoS  included the benefits  of improving property  tax. The                                                               
tornado  chart from  Wood  Mackenzie will  show  the benefits  of                                                               
producing the property tax, which reduces CoS by $.50 - $.60.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:31:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   RICHARDS  reviewed   slide   17,   Transition  to   Private                                                               
Developers.  He  commented that  AGDC  advanced  this project  by                                                               
seeking   private-sector   developers,  not   international   oil                                                               
companies,  but utility  or pipeline  companies with  the systems                                                               
and ability  to execute  and operate  a project.  These companies                                                               
would partner  with the state if  the state would like  to retain                                                               
25 percent  ownership to move  this project forward.  He reported                                                               
that  AGDC  is currently  negotiating  with  companies using  the                                                               
project finance model.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:32:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK turned  to slide 18, Project  Finance. He commented                                                               
that the graph on the bottom  of the slide visually captures what                                                               
the  committee previously  discussed  for  project financing.  He                                                               
related that no LNG was exported  from the US when Wood Mackenzie                                                               
produced its  original study in  2016. The idea of  using project                                                               
finance  had  been  contemplated, The  Cheniere/Sabine  Pass  LNG                                                               
project was  under construction, but  it was far from  proven. In                                                               
the  last  five  years,  this  project  finance  model  has  been                                                               
verified.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Non-recourse project financing under a tolling model                                                                      
      was not widely used for LNG prior to 2016. Since, it                                                                      
     has been used for almost all US LNG capacity.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Prior to 2016                                                                                                            
     • Virtually all LNG projects developed by oil and                                                                          
        gas companies without true project financing                                                                            
     • No tolling/capacity charge included in LNG                                                                               
        price, LNG sold indexed to oil                                                                                          
     • No US LNG exports                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     After 2016                                                                                                               
    • The US LNG industry grows to nearly the largest LNG                                                                       
        export in the world                                                                                                     
     • All LNG plants built by developers with project                                                                          
        finance model, not oil and gas companies                                                                                
     • LNG prices include tolling/capacity charge                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:33:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON IMHOF  asked whether  developer-led projects  were a                                                               
tolling model.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF asked for a description of a tolling model.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SZYMONIAK answered  that  a tolling  model  is the  pipeline                                                               
business model. He  explained that pipelines are  built because a                                                               
valuable resource located in one region  needs to be moved to the                                                               
location the resource  is needed. He stated that  to preserve the                                                               
maximum  amount  of  value  for  the  resource  producer  and  to                                                               
minimize the  costs to  the buyer, the  pipeline must  operate as                                                               
inexpensively  as possible.  Since  capital  costs represent  the                                                               
highest cost  of moving oil  or gas through a  pipeline, reducing                                                               
them  would   directly  affect  the  total   pipeline  cost.  The                                                               
producers  enter  into  long-term  contracts  to  fully  use  the                                                               
pipeline  capacity. The  producers take  out loans  based on  the                                                               
contracts rather  than obtaining  a loan  based on  their balance                                                               
sheets.  The loan  ranges  from about  70 -  75  percent and  the                                                               
remainder  represents  the  equity that  the  pipeline  developer                                                               
invests. Although  they want  to turn  a profit,  their investors                                                               
understand the  low risk, so they  are willing to accept  a lower                                                               
rate of  return ranging  from 10  - 12  percent, knowing  that no                                                               
matter what happens, the return  is consistent. The tolling model                                                               
was applied  to LNG projects  for the first  time in the  US Gulf                                                               
Coast in the last seven years.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  expressed concern that  it sounded very  much like                                                               
TransCanada's proposal  under the  Alaska Gasline  Inducement Act                                                               
(AGIA).  He related  that  TransCanada exited.  He  asked for  an                                                               
explanation of how this happened.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:35:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SZYMONIAK  answered  the  TransCanada   model  was  for  the                                                               
pipeline. The  major shift is  applied through the LNG  Plant and                                                               
the GTP.  He highlighted that no  one had used the  tolling model                                                               
with  an LNG  plant  at that  time. LNG  plants  had been  owned,                                                               
built, and  operated by oil and  gas companies that sold  the LNG                                                               
linked  to oil  prices. The  shift  to project  financing with  a                                                               
capacity  charge  on the  LNG  plants  represented a  significant                                                               
change. He  related a scenario  where LNG prices  cratered during                                                               
the pandemic.  The LNG plant's  customers stopped buying  LNG but                                                               
continued to  pay their  capacity charge,  which allowed  the LNG                                                               
companies to  continue to generate  revenue at their  LNG plants.                                                               
This  allowed them  to continue  to  make money,  pay their  debt                                                               
service, and repay their investors. He  said that is why they can                                                               
achieve a lower cost of capital.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON  IMHOF asked what  happens with a capacity  loan when                                                               
the buyer refuses  to pay. She compared not selling  LNG to a car                                                               
loan, where the owner wrecks the  car, but must still pay the car                                                               
loan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK answered that it would  result in a lawsuit. If the                                                               
buyer  breaches the  contract,  the lender  has  recourse to  the                                                               
buyer.  The  key to  making  this  work is  credit-worthy  buyers                                                               
pledging their  credit to  the entire system,  which flows  up to                                                               
the bank.  When the buyer  doesn't pay  the toll, the  lender has                                                               
recourse  against the  buyer instead  of  the infrastructure.  He                                                               
indicated  that if  the state  owned 25  percent of  the project,                                                               
under this model, the state would  earn a 10 - 12 percent return,                                                               
but it would be a relatively low-risk investment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:38:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  reviewed slide 19,  Timeline, which consisted  of a                                                               
chart   showing  the   timeline  for   negotiating  the   project                                                               
development agreements  and the  construction phase from  2024 to                                                               
2031.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  indicated that Alaska  LNG would focus  on securing                                                               
LNG  Lead  parties,  signing Memorandums  of  Understanding  with                                                               
AGDC,  and working  towards project  development agreements  that                                                               
allow them  to enter into privately-funded  Front End Engineering                                                               
Design (FEED). He stated that  the Alaska LNG project would reach                                                               
FEED  in 2023,  reaching  a final  investment  decision in  2024,                                                               
followed by  six to seven  years of construction, and  the target                                                               
for the first gas in 2030.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS briefly noted slide 20, Fully Permitted Project.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Completed                                                                                                                
     • Federal Energy Regulatory Commission                                                                                     
     • (FERC) Authorization to Construct                                                                                        
     • All 36 Major Federal permits & authorizations                                                                            
     • Federal ROWs: Bureau of Land Management,                                                                                 
        National Park Service                                                                                                   
     • Alaska State Land Leases and Gas                                                                                         
     • Treatment Plant Air Permit                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Supplemental EIS                                                                                                         
    • Upstream analysis of potential environmental impacts                                                                      
        associated with natural gas production on the North                                                                     
        Slope                                                                                                                   
       • Lifecycle analysis calculating greenhouse gas                                                                          
        emissions from the Alaska LNG Project                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:39:44 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE asked to  return to  slide 20. He  asked for                                                               
AGDC's  process  to  attract developers  to  Alaska  because  the                                                               
project has  been discussed for  over 40 years. He  wondered what                                                               
changed that  would motivate developers  to sign MOUs  when other                                                               
undeveloped projects might be more lucrative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS acknowledged  that it has not  been easy. Developers                                                               
around  the world  know  about this  project, but  view  it as  a                                                               
large,  challenging project  in  Arctic conditions  that will  be                                                               
costly to construct and require taking substantial risk.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS stated  that AGDC has worked  to educate developers.                                                               
He said  AGDC frames Alaska  LNG by  identifying one of  the most                                                               
significant  project risks  as the  federal regulatory  agencies                                                                
environmental process.  It includes the public  process of taking                                                               
public and  stakeholder comments.  The process  considers impacts                                                               
on  flora and  fauna, and  the  project managers  must work  with                                                               
federal  agencies  on  mitigation  measures  for  reasonable  and                                                               
economically achievable  goals. He  said that AGDC  had completed                                                               
that  process,  so  that  risk  has  been  averted.  AGDC  has  a                                                               
supplemental environmental  impact statement (EIS)  undertaken by                                                               
the Department  of Energy in  the Biden administration.  While it                                                               
includes  risk, it  is  a lower  risk  because the  environmental                                                               
process  provides greenhouse  gas  emissions  analysis to  ensure                                                               
that enough  molecules are upstream  to meet the  30-year project                                                               
life.  He  reported  that  the  independent  analysis  shows  the                                                               
molecules  are  there.  This  greenhouse  gas  analysis  will  be                                                               
released next  month. It demonstrates  a 54 percent  reduction of                                                               
CO2 compared  to coal  in Asia, representing  77 million  tons of                                                               
CO2  removed from  the environment.  He  characterized the  green                                                               
component of the project as a positive one.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:43:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  explained that  the buyers want  LNG to  meet their                                                               
needs  as  a  transition  fuel but  are  looking  towards  future                                                               
hydrogen.   Alaska's  methane   provides   for  both,   providing                                                               
immediate and  future opportunities.  Buyers seek a  diversity of                                                               
supply.  The West  Coast  projects  are LNG  Canada  and a  small                                                               
Mexico  project. Everything  else is  shipped through  the Panama                                                               
Canal, which  means time,  cost, and  delay. He  highlighted that                                                               
buyers  view Alaska  geopolitically, as  part of  the US,  with a                                                               
significant  military   presence,  with   a  50-year   record  of                                                               
supplying  LNG to  Asian markets.  In terms  of constructing  and                                                               
building modularization for the  major plants, Alaska had already                                                               
built a pipeline  in Arctic and sub-Arctic conditions,  so it has                                                               
the  experience  and infrastructure,  including  previously-built                                                               
roads and  pipeline pads. Thus, it  is not the new  frontier like                                                               
it was for  TAPS. AGDC dispels misconceptions  by indicating that                                                               
Alaska is part of the first  world and regularly produces oil and                                                               
gas reservoirs.  AGDC has federal  authorizations, and  the state                                                               
and its  citizens support  the Alaska  LNG project  advancing. It                                                               
means  that  Alaska doesn't  have  stakeholder  risks like  other                                                               
projects  like Keystone  or North  Dakota Access  experience that                                                               
halts their projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:45:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK  commented that  AGDC has the  full support  of the                                                               
producers: Hilcorp,  Conoco Phillips, and Exxon  Mobil. He stated                                                               
that  AGDC   meets  with  the  producers   regularly,  and  these                                                               
companies  provide  strategic guidance.  When  AGDC  brings in  a                                                               
developer   to  look   at  the   project,  the   developers  sign                                                               
confidentiality  agreements  and  meet  with  the  producers.  He                                                               
offered  his belief  that having  developers build  relationships                                                               
with the producers  is critical. The Alaska  LNG project requires                                                               
developers to  have long-term  relationships with  the producers.                                                               
AGDC wants  producers to  sell gas  to the  project on  the North                                                               
Slope  but does  not  want them  to take  over  the project.  The                                                               
producers' cost of capital is too  high, and it is not a priority                                                               
for them in  the midstream, but they have all  been clear that it                                                               
is a high priority for them to sell the gas.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed slide 21, Greenhouse Gas Emissions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     A life  cycle analysis of  Alaska LNG shows  it reduces                                                                    
     greenhouse gas emissions  for electric power generation                                                                    
     by more than 77 million metric  tons of CO2 per year in                                                                    
     comparison to Asian coal derived power                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS stated  that the chart on the  right shows emissions                                                               
of  CO2 from  an Asian  coal-fired generation  versus electricity                                                               
produced  from  LNG,  which  would  result  in  over  54  percent                                                               
reduction in emissions  from LNG. The box on the  left shows that                                                               
it would be equivalent to  eliminating 19 coal-fired power plants                                                               
or constructing 16,000 wind turbines.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE asked whether  the calculation  included the                                                               
potential for  sequestration or  other technologies  or if  it is                                                               
based on conventional production, shipping, and liquefaction.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  characterized it as  a full life cycle  analysis of                                                               
Alaska LNG. He  stated that it considered oil  and gas production                                                               
on the  North Slope, the  gas treatment and sequestration  of the                                                               
CO2  on the  North Slope,  the pipeline,  liquefaction, shipping,                                                               
and delivery  to the Asian market,  as well as consumption  in an                                                               
Asian gas-fired power plant.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:48:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  reviewed slide 22, Alaska  Hydrogen Opportunity. He                                                               
stated  that AGDC  refers  to  the potential  use  of methane  in                                                               
Alaska as  an Alaska  hydrogen opportunity.  He related  that the                                                               
Kenai LNG  plant paved  the way  for LNG from  Alaska to  Asia 50                                                               
years ago. For many of  the same reasons, clean hydrogen industry                                                               
can also be  created in Alaska. He reviewed the  reasons shown on                                                               
the slide:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Carbon Storage and Sequestration at the Project Site                                                                      
     at Tidewater                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Cycle GHG Emissions for Natural Gas vs. Coal Power                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Low GHG Natural Gas from Conventional Supply                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Short Distance to Expanding Clean Hydrogen Markets in                                                                      
     Asia                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       Existing Ammonia Plant well Positioned to be First                                                                       
     Mover in Market                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:49:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS briefly reviewed slide  23, Clean Hydrogen Overview.                                                               
He stated that the chart on  the left shows the methane molecules                                                               
composition. He  explained that ammonia  could be a carrier  of H                                                               
atoms and meet  the needs in Asia. He noted  that Asia would like                                                               
to spike  their coal generation  with ammonia, which  reduces the                                                               
amount of CO2 emissions coming out of the stacks.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Conversion of Natural Gas                                                                                                
    • Natural gas can be converted into hydrogen and then                                                                       
        into ammonia                                                                                                            
     • The existing Nutrien ammonia plant in Nikiski uses                                                                       
        this process                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  reported that  Cook Inlet  Basin reservoirs  has 50                                                               
gigatons of  CO2 sequestration. He  stated that Cook  Inlet Basin                                                               
is world class and has the best  carbon sink on the West Coast of                                                               
North America. Alaska  has an opportunity to  capture the carbon,                                                               
create hydrogen  or ammonia  to sequester  in Alaska,  and obtain                                                               
the green category associated with it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     CO2 Sequestration                                                                                                        
    • The process to convert natural gas into hydrogen and                                                                      
        ammonia produces CO2                                                                                                    
        • If this CO2 is captured and sequestered, the                                                                          
        resulting "Blue Ammonia" is a clean fuel                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  said Alaska  has  an  opportunity to  capture  the                                                               
carbon, create  hydrogen or  ammonia to  sequester in  Alaska and                                                               
obtain the green category associated with it.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Hydrogen vs Ammonia                                                                                                      
    • Both hydrogen and ammonia are clean fuels and do not                                                                      
        emit CO2 when burned                                                                                                    
     • Hydrogen is converted into ammonia to make storage                                                                       
        and transportation easier                                                                                               
    • Ammonia can be exported to Asia to meet their future                                                                      
        clean energy demands                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR  MICCICHE asked  if the  GPT was  for hydrogen  and if                                                               
post liquefaction  is for secondary carbon  sequestration in Cook                                                               
Inlet.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered that it is  not currently in the design. He                                                               
explained that  Vice Chair  Micciche was  speaking about  the Gas                                                               
Treatment Plant (GTP) on the  North Slope. The natural gas stream                                                               
from Point  Thomson and Prudhoe Bay  goes through a process  at a                                                               
GTP  that  separates  the  CO2 from  the  methane  molecules,  is                                                               
captured,  and pushed  back into  the Prudhoe  Bay reservoir  for                                                               
sequestration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS reviewed  the liquefaction  process to  capture the                                                               
carbon  atoms from  the emissions  ultimately. He  indicated that                                                               
this  technology is  expensive, but  new technologies  are coming                                                               
online and  being developed, making it  cost-effective to capture                                                               
the flue gases and sequester them.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked about the  potential to store carbon  or CO2                                                               
in the  Cook Inlet  depleted reservoirs. He  wondered how  the 50                                                               
gigatons capacity  relates to the  throughput on the  pipeline or                                                               
what it would cost per unit.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SZYMONIAK  related his understanding  that units  are ammonia                                                               
and hydrogen. He  offered his belief that 50  gigatons are enough                                                               
to  sequester a  large  industrial clean  ammonia  plant in  Cook                                                               
Inlet. AGDC is in the early  stages of putting together a team to                                                               
perform a  feasibility study to  refine the  actual sequestration                                                               
relative  to  industrial processes  for  exported  fuels and  the                                                               
cost.  He indicated  that  AGDC  is very  much  on the  frontier.                                                               
Still,  they benefited  from a  study performed  in 2011  or 2012                                                               
funded  by a  Lower 48  company using  the Department  of Natural                                                               
Resources information  that identified  it. He stated  that there                                                               
was some scientific basis behind the magnitude of the site.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:54:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS  added that  AGDC would produce  20 million  tons of                                                               
liquid natural gas  annually from the GTP, and  the CO2 generated                                                               
in Cook  Inlet would be  significantly smaller. This  means there                                                               
would be generations of potential sequestration opportunity.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  commented that  he would like  a follow-up  on the                                                               
potential sequestration opportunities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE agreed. He  offered his view that there would                                                               
be  a guarantee  of 60  years of  reasonably heavy  production in                                                               
Cook Inlet with  a much smaller stream of CO2.  He estimated that                                                               
there would be  50 years of heavy production on  the North Slope.                                                               
He pointed out  that CO2 is a fraction of  what would be produced                                                               
for every  cubic foot  of natural  gas used  for the  project. He                                                               
acknowledged  that  it would  be  an  interesting calculation  of                                                               
what's  been  produced minus  what  will  be produced  in  carbon                                                               
sequestration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:55:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SZYMONIAK  answered that there is  great carbon sequestration                                                               
in the coal seams that produce natural gas.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:55:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS reviewed slide 24, Hydrogen Feasibility Funding.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      AGDC is working with partners on external funding to                                                                      
     develop Alaska hydrogen opportunities                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Potential funding sources include:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Private North American energy companies                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Infrastructure bill funding:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
         • $8 billion to be spent on 4+ Hydrogen Hubs                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Private Japanese energy companies                                                                                     
        • Japanese state entities                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS elaborated  on AGDC's work with  partners to develop                                                               
Alaska  hydrogen opportunities.  He  stated one  emphasis of  the                                                               
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act  (IIJA) was to examine the                                                               
creation  of hydrogen  hubs in  the US.  The original  bill (H.R.                                                               
3684) called for $8 billion in  funding for four hydrogen hubs in                                                               
geographically distinct parts  of the United States.  The goal of                                                               
this  funding  is to  ensure  that  private sector  entities  can                                                               
develop a hydrogen-based economy to  meet the energy needs in the                                                               
US. From  AGDC's perspective, this  would also  include exporting                                                               
hydrogen.  Currently,   buyer  countries  are   seeking  hydrogen                                                               
production,  so  AGDC has  discussed  potential  funding for  the                                                               
feasibility  study for  hydrogen  production in  Cook Inlet.  The                                                               
potential of  Asian buyers and  infrastructure funding  coming to                                                               
Alaska could  help generate or  encourage hydrogen  production in                                                               
Cook Inlet. AGDC  has been working with  ammonia producers, buyer                                                               
companies  seeking  funding  from their  countries,  and  private                                                               
sector  heavy industries  contributing to  the hydrogen  project.                                                               
This week,  the governor introduced  an infrastructure  bill that                                                               
included funding for AGDC to  develop a hydrogen hub proposal. He                                                               
characterized   it  as   seed   funding   to  potentially   bring                                                               
substantial  funding   from  the  federal  government   and  host                                                               
countries.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:58:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS discussed slide 25, Alaska LNG and Blue Ammonia.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  size  of  the   current  LNG  market  can  support                                                                    
     construction  of a  20 Mtpa  Alaska LNG  facility. This                                                                    
     LNG facility  is large  enough to  support construction                                                                    
     of the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Cook  Inlet Blue  Ammonia demonstrates  the opportunity                                                                    
     for  expanded clean  energy  supply  from Alaska.  This                                                                    
     future  proofs Alaska  LNG  investment  and provides  a                                                                    
     path to net-zero carbon energy from Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RICHARDS  summarized  the current  status  and  benefits  to                                                               
Alaska highlighted on slide 26, Alaska LNG.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Strong Economics                                                                                                         
     • Fully Permitted                                                                                                          
     • Environmental Benefits                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Benefits                                                                                                          
     • Energy for Alaskans                                                                                                      
     • Jobs                                                                                                                     
     • New Revenue                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  offered his belief  that the economics  are showing                                                               
that  AGDC has  a viable  project  that is  fully permitted  with                                                               
environmental benefits  not only for  Alaskans but in  the world.                                                               
Alaska  LNG   could  provide  lower-cost  energy   for  Alaskans,                                                               
bringing in new jobs and revenue to the state.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:59:10 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR MICCICHE asked whether  AGDC has performed an economic                                                               
analysis to determine  if the state could qualify for  one of the                                                               
Region Clean Hydrogen Hubs (H2Hubs)  funded by the Infrastructure                                                               
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:59:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RICHARDS answered  that AGDC had evaluated  hydrogen hubs. He                                                               
stated that the  language in IIJA focuses  on feedstock, end-use,                                                               
geographic  diversity, and  opportunities  to create  employment.                                                               
The  Department  of  Energy  will   be  administering  the  H2Hub                                                               
proposal  and   carbon  capture   proposal.  AGDC   has  recently                                                               
responded to  a request  for information by  DoE to  help develop                                                               
the criteria  for the  hubs. AGDC  prepared a  proposal, entering                                                               
key  questions about  diversity  and  supply, including  Alaska's                                                               
Arctic gas source  that an H2Hub could export.  The proposal also                                                               
noted that the  H2Hub project could replace  the significant loss                                                               
of oil  and gas  jobs in Alaska  and create  long-term, high-wage                                                               
jobs.  The  funding in  the  governor's  bill was  envisioned  to                                                               
develop  a  proposal,  with  AGDC  working  with  private  sector                                                               
entities, DNR,  and the University  of Alaska (UAA) to  develop a                                                               
robust  and competitive  proposal  for an  H2Hub  in Alaska.  The                                                               
funding would come in tranches, with  the initial phase of $4 - 5                                                               
million for  each H2Hub  in the  first year or  two to  prove the                                                               
feedstock, end-use,  and geographic diversity.  Subsequently, the                                                               
second  tranche would  provide substantial  funding, billions  of                                                               
dollars  for the  hubs once  the state  and AGDC  have a  private                                                               
sector project development ready to  market. In closing, AGDC put                                                               
forward the initial phase of  funding to generate a proposal that                                                               
can be successful.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:03:13 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Vice  Chair  Micciche  adjourned the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 5:03 p.m.                                                                                                  

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AGDC LNG Presentation SRES 4.6.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
Supporting Document Alaska LNG Competitiveness Analysis 4.5.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228 Fiscal Note DEC 1.25.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228
SB 228 Sectional Analysis 4.6.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228
SB 228 Tier III Waters Transmittal Letter 3.10.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228
SB 228 Letter of Opposition Molly Dischner 4.6.2022.pdf SRES 4/6/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 228